Bonjour à tous
A voir le repo Github et les commentaires, la release NVDA 2021.1beta1 semble imminente (une seule issue ouverte dans le milestone 2021.1 et commentaire indiquant des tests pendant ce WE sur le nouveau commit de eSpeak avant la beta).
J'ai envoyé un message ci-dessous sur la liste internationale des traducteurs concernant le fichier des symbols. Mais je ne travaille pas sur sa traduction en français, le but n'étant pas de faire le travail 2 fois en parallèle. Michel, habituellement, je pense que c'est toi qui le traduis. Prévois-tu bien de le faire durant ce WE? J'ai vu que tu as déjà traduit l'interface et le guide utilisateur (merci!) Si tu ne peux pas ou si tu as des difficultés, je veux bien essayer de m'y atteler. Mais je ne suis pas sûr d'avoir tout le temps... Donc si tu as du temps, je préfère te laisser à la manoeuvre. Je pourrai corriger à la marge si nécessaire. Pour les symbols math, j'avais déjà effectué ce type de traduction que tu peux trouver dans l'extension Access8Math.
A+
Cyrille
---------- mail transféré ---------- Envoyé: vendredi 21 Mai 2021 18:13 De : "Cyrille via groups.io" A : nvda-translations@groups.io Objet : Re: [nvda-translations] what's happened to symbols.dic? Sorry, the attachment was missing. Here it is.
De : "Cyrille via groups.io" A : nvda-translations@groups.io Envoyé: vendredi 21 Mai 2021 18:09 Objet : Re: [nvda-translations] what's happened to symbols.dic?
Hello all
Reef Turner indicated in the Github issue that converting back the line ending would result in a new full file diff, which is indesirable.
So translators have to go forward with this new file.
If it helps, I have made a diff between the old symbol file (commit b413305a70db75c3591ad85698901e61649916a8:source/locale/en/symbols.dic) and the new one (commit a3b6c23f05d8e613a27effbd68715395d6255407) ignoring manually line ending modifications. It is attached to this message.
For reference the commits are the following:
The old commit is the last merge of alpha into beta in NVDA Github repo before the release2020.4: commit b413305a70db75c3591ad85698901e61649916a8 Merge: e62a39eee 376edfcf0 Author: Reef Turner feerrenrut@users.noreply.github.com Date: Thu Nov 19 18:35:25 2020 +0800 Merge pull request #11844 from nvaccess/master Merge alpha into beta
The new commit is the last commit found on the beta branch in NVDA Github repo: commit a3b6c23f05d8e613a27effbd68715395d6255407 (HEAD -> beta, nvaccess/beta) Author: Reef Turner feerrenrut@users.noreply.github.com Date: Fri May 21 17:00:06 2021 +0800 Update espeak to latest master (PR #12449)
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Cyrille
De : "Cyrille via groups.io" A : nvda-translations@groups.io Envoyé: jeudi 20 Mai 2021 17:52 Objet : Re: [nvda-translations] what's happened to symbols.dic?
Hello
Sorry, my first analysis was wrong. There is of course a big diff due to line re-ordering. But the PR that adds math symbols also seems to have converted line ending characters for all lines. I do not think it was intended. Thus I have commented at http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/11467%C2%A0and CCed NVAccess people. Let's wait for their recommandations.
Cheers,
Cyrille
De : "Cyrille via groups.io" A : nvda-translations@groups.io Envoyé: jeudi 20 Mai 2021 10:49 Objet : Re: [nvda-translations] what's happened to symbols.dic?
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Hello
The answer is this point:
“Added some more mathematical symbols and restructured for better overview”
The order of the lines in the symbol file has been modified.
Unfortunately for translators it gives a lot more of work to check for diffs.
It would have been better to separate the PR in 2: one for math symbols and the second for re-ordering.
Now we have to deal with it.
Cheers,
Cyrille
De : nvda-translations@groups.io nvda-translations@groups.io De la part de José Manuel Delicado Alcolea via groups.io Envoyé : jeudi 20 mai 2021 10:05 À : nvda-translations@groups.io Objet : Re: [nvda-translations] what's happened to symbols.dic?
Hi Simone,
After running the command "git log source/locale/en/symbols.dyc" inside the NVDA repository (master branch), I imagine the answer to your question is in the last 2 commits. I paste the result below.
commit 90dd4e9ab9afa4bb058d1650530b68918e13e98c Author: Cyrille Bougot cyrille.bougot2@laposte.net Date: Mon Feb 1 01:03:36 2021 +0100
Fix-up of #11467 in symbol file: (#12017)
- deleted extra tab - removed duplicate symbol definition
commit 2e0ebb5691b4eabff6bdceaab4f45a5485fca026 Author: Adriani90 adriani.botez@googlemail.com Date: Thu Jan 21 02:49:30 2021 +0100
Added some mathematical symbols (#11467)
* Added some mathematical symbols
* Addressed missing tab character and a missing level
* Added some more mathematical symbols and restructured for better overview
* Fixed some symols to match different languages (i.e. see issue #11502
* Addressed review actions and removed the ordinal symbols because they cause issues in many lating languages. Those ordinal symbols should be controlled by the synthesizers.
* Addressed review actions (removed the mathematical constants and the incremental symbol to avoid confusions and improved consistency in ortographics)
Regards.
El 20/05/2021 a las 9:57, Simone Dal Maso escribió:
Hello, today I started looking into the new modifications of symbols.dic file, but I am quite confused. In the differences.txt file, I can see that all lines are removed and then readded. We have the minus sign for all the file and then the plus sign. So, the question is, what is changed? Thank you!
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